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>> we solve this mystery and we will tell you about it tomorrow night. also for tomorrow night, to the man who killed osama bin laden right here at this table. set your dvrs for that. "special report" up next. president obama names jonathan gruber as some advisor and challenges the media over transparency, the facts and the history, this is special report. >> good evening, i'm bret baier. president obama is trying to limit the -- the second obama care enrollment period is now under way, health and human services secretary sylvia
burrwell says more than a million people visited the website over the weekend and 200,000 contacted the call center. on the other hand, gallup says the health care law has hit its lowest point yet, with just 37% of americans approving and 56% disapproving. this comes ahead of anticipate ed repeal efforts from next year's republican controlled congress. >> reporter: professor, do you really think the american voters are stupid? what about the obama care, is that just a hoax on the american people? >> reporter: embattled obama care architect jonathan gruber uttered a no comment, but president obama did comment in australia when asked by fox news's ed henry whether he misled the american people to get obama care passed. >> no, i did not. i just heard about this the fact that some advisor who never worked on our staff expressed an
opinion that i completely disagree with, in terms of the v voters is no reflection on the actual process that was rung. >> reporter: gruber tells a very different story, he says he then reached president obama on his health care model. >> he clearly was not interested in little incremental thing, he wanted to be bold. >> reporter: gruber was summoned by the transition team and then by the oval air force. gruber tells of a fully engaged president. >> to his credit, he gets a lot of people, look, you cannot make this work without the mandate, he says okay, let's do the mandate, and his advisors say this might not be the right thing to do, he says let's make this happen. >> reporter: an array of democratic staff touted the gruber model. in 2012, barack obama launched an ad.
>> and governor romney launched romney care. >> reporter: the administration also sent glowing reports of gruber's model to conservative media. >> it was a crazy thing to do at the time, you know the republicans rushed to the mikes do apologize. the democrats rushed to their direct mail vendors to eck exploit it, but joe wilson was on target. >> reporter: and no one has made that point more than grub if. he's become the unintentional darling of consumers who are saying that lack of trance parngs si is political advantage. >> doug, thank you. one fact about progress sor professor gruber is undeniable, he has been paid a lot of money for his advise, and not just by the federal government.
james rosen has that part of the story tonight. >> reporter: among the first to complain about dr. john than grooub gruber long before his comments about the stupidity of the american voter went viral. upset that the obama administration wasn't pursuing a single payer health care system. today conservatives see that failure to disclose as part of a broader problem gruber has with transparency. >> this is not saying the amount of money he made is wrong, but when he's testifying before congress, there ought to be full disclosure of this so that you know if he's got an unbiassed opinion or not. >> the money was pretty good, reviewing official government websites and published reports, fox news estimates gruber and or his firm received over $5 million of federal contracts over the past 15 years, the
agencies range from the national institutes of health to the justice department which paid gruber to develop viable incentives to prevent tobacco companies from targeting teenagers. >> my job was to see if the numbers added up. >> reporter: they added up all right, as gruber also consulted for or provided computer models to at least 15 state governments among them michigan where he shared a state contract, nearly $330,000 from minnesota and lesser amounts from west virginia and vermont where gruber sarcastically asked if some of the ---had been written by hissed a legs sent children. >> i think he's unusual in terms of the scale and scope of it. there are not a lot of individual university economists who get this level of funding from federal and state
governments. >> reporter: we reached out to dr. gruber for comment unlike a lot of folks who find themselves at the center of a media fire storm, the professor e-mailed us back, saying sorry, i'm not doing any media appearances right now. >> thank you, more on this at the bottom of the hour. meantime senate democratic leaders are encouraging president obama to pull the trigger on immigration reform. they sent the president a letter today urging him to use what they call his well established executive powers to improve the system as much as possible. senior political analyst brit hume is here with some analysis of what the president is facing. >> with two years to go, president obama faces a grim landscape, under him his party has now lost both houses of congress, a majority of governor ships and an historic number of state legislators, for the first time in years, republi viewed more favorably than democrats and obama care has just hit it's lowest approval
rating yet. but he seems bent on ignoring this to -- the president may b betting that he can g oad republicans into such an exstrav gant reaction. impeachment would backfire on republicans as it did with the cling impeachment. how much money does it take not to deport people. and if such a defund measure was -- filibuster or an obama veto and that could trigger a government shutdown, democrats would be to blame. the republicans would be smart to look very closely at what obama actually orders to see if it makes any real difference. if not, he might just be setting a trap for them. bret? >> so what do you think they should look for? well, they should look for how many people will be allowed to
stay in this country who might otherwise be eligible for deportation and how many of them if nothing was done would be deported anyway. it doesn't appear to me that have many people are being deported now. even though the constitutional fi of it would appear to be very suspect, the best place to resolve this might be the courts and not the congress. congress has very blunt instruments for dealing with things like that and sometimes when they use them, it doesn't work out for them too well. >> the push back is obviously people on capitol hill saying we need to stand up for the constitution. >> they may make some attempts to this. but if they're goaded into reacting to the public e it will backfire on them. jay nixon has declared a state of emergency and activated the national guard in an tis pace of a grand jury decision as to whether charges will be brought against the white police
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>> reporter: for example, he said in the remote chance isis obtained a nuclear weapon, he would order a u.s. attack. meanwhile fox obtained a -- reaching another deadline november 24 and israel's prime minister warned the u.s. not to be distracted by isis or enlist iran's help in fighting the group. >> both our enemies are fighting one another and where they are, we can both -- >> reporter: as senator kerry headed to -- alternative should be even tougher sanctions, here at home, the vote to extend the keystone pipeline, something republicans have demanded for years, mary landrieu asked for the vote. >> this is a cynical attempt to -- serious about this, we would have voted on this years ago. >> reporter: to the president hasn't said he would veto the
bill, but he's skeptical about a pipeline that would carry oil across the u.s. mostly or export. at his first stop in beijing, mr. obama agreed with chinese leaders to cut -- republicans complained the chinese don't have to reduce their emissions under the deal, but the president says it's a start. >> china committed for the first time slowing and then peaking in the course of its missions. >> reporter: actually the chinese have only agreed to look at reducing their emissions after 2030, but the president says the deal could still prove -- if india agrees to curb its carbon dioxide emissions. the saudi prince gave him money and money to several others who were involved in the
terror plot. mussaoui has written to courts claiming to have inside information about the inner workings of al qaeda and moussaoui was arrested before the attacks. but lawyers in a lawsuit against saudi arabia were permitted to interview him last month in prison. pope francis is coming to the u.s. the vatican has confirmed that the pope will be in philadelphia next year for a family's conference. more than 1 million people may attend. the pope is also expected to visit washington and new york, possibly for an address to congress and the united nations. still ahead, president obama's downplaying the importance of obama care advisor jonathan gruber who has caused him numerous headaches as of late, fair or not? we'll take an in-depth look. first why is the dea rating the nfl? the 411 is next.
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i. our top story at the bottom of the hour, president obama is trying to minimize the testimony of mit professor jonathan gruber in the formation of the affordable care act and on. tonight we take some time to try to clear things up. we do take some time to clear things up, but we'll fix the video and the sound before we get that to you. meantime, republicans and democrats on the house oversight committee are demanding answers
about a suspected cyber attack that has shut down the state department's unclassified e-mail system. the system was still down today. one day after the department disabled it over a breach that was discovered several weeks ago appearing to target the white house. there was no indication then that the state department had been affected. but a state department spokesman says the two breaches now appear to be limited. we're going to take a break right now and fix that video and sound and on the other side we'll bring you an in depth report about jonathan gruber, president obama and transparency. stay here. [ narrator ] mama sherman and the legion of super fans. wow! [ narrator ] on a mission to get richard to his campbell's chunky soup. it's new chunky beer-n-cheese with beef and bacon soup. i love it. and mama loves you. ♪ ght, so this tylenol andarthritis lasts 8 hours but aleve can last 12 hours. and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis.
that's why we're bringing in our panel. jonathan goldberg, senior editor national review. senior political columnist and syndicated column nils charles krauthammer. let's talk about jonathan gruber and the headache this has caused this administration and obama care in general. >> i was out of town last week, so i missed a lot of this. >> welcome back. >> you heard about it. >> i heard about it. but it was today doing my home work for this i finally read up on it. i just got angrier and angrier about it. this represents not just what's wrong with the obama administration, it's everything wrong with liberalism itself. you've got this guy who's pretending to be an objective analyst, who's got huge skin in the game, also off the prestige being involved and the speeches he could do which haven't been tallied into these numbers, it's millions of dollars.
liberal journalists are all pretending to be objective analysts, quoting each other, reaffirming each other, which went along with this soup to nuts, which this guy said was all about lies and misleading the american people. when caught about it t same administration tries to dismiss him as if he was just some sort of random who is intruder, the whole thing stinks, it's not just a he's getting rich, it's the hypocrisy that every time republicans complain about obama care, they say it's just because those profit hungry koch brothers are trying to get rich, which is also a lie. it's also that this law itself makes american life more complex and then there's this leaching new class of people, who profit from the complexity that they are imposing upon the society. and so it's like a pinata, you can hit it from any angle and you'll get something out of it. >> you feel plugged back in?
>> i'm working on it. >> the president of the united states said just yesterday, i just heard about this, you were on vacation, how can you not hear about the fact that one of your chief advisors on your signature bill said that the american people were stupid and that we deceived them in passing the bill, either he didn't hear about it or he's completely out of touch. i have a theory, either he's lying about it or he's completely out of touch. he's completely out of touch because they agree with everything that gruber thinks, including that they think we're stup stup stup stupid. >> so he just didn't know. >> his staff didn't tell him, because they don't think there's anything wrong with what gruber said, yeah, that's how we did things, this is no big deal, this is how you get legislation passed. and i do think they think the american people are stupid and i'm saying that as somebody who sees some gains that we have made with some hca who wants it to succeed. you're exactly right about
everything else you said. >> charles, this is what they call a deep tease, more from charles after this piece that we wanted to show you with the history and the fastbacts behin this story. >> i just heard about this, i get well briefed before i come out here. the fact that some advisor who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with, in terms of the voters, is no reflection on the fall process that was run. >> in brisbane, president obama tried hard to downplay jonathan gruber's role in the formation of his health care bill. gruber who was not only paid by hhs was also made millions from other federal agencies and states has talked got his time dealing directly with president obama. >> we had a meeting in the oval office with experts including
myself. >> reporter: after all that, president obama issued a challenge to reporters in australia. >> i would advise every press outlet here, go back and pull-up every clip, every story, and i think it's fair to say that there was not a provision in the health care law that was not extensively debated and was fully transparent. >> looking back, even in 2010, the process was considered anything but transparent. in fact, as james rosen noted, the founder of liberal fire dog jane hamp shire wrote in march of 2010 about gruber, she called his -- lack of disclosure on the part of the white house t senate, the dnc and other democratic leader who is distributed gruber's work and cited it as independent validation of their proposals, orchestrating the appearance of broad consensus, when in fact it was all part of the same effort,
an effort that started picking up steam soon after gruber's $400,000 hhs contract went into effect in 2009. before long, gruber was being cited everywhere, on capitol hill -- >> according to gruber, who has been our guide on a lot of this, it's somewhere in the vicinity of an $8 billion cost. >> reporter: and in the press, in 2009, gruber released his house health care analysis which was picked up by "washington post" columnist ezra klein. mit health economist john gruber sends along a paper looking at premiums under the new house plan. the white house blog then quickly linked to klein's post, and praised gruber's, quote, objective analysis. which then made its way back up to capitol hill. and still no mention that gruber was working for hhs. >> i don't know if you have seen
jonathan gruber's analysis. in compa >> two weeks later, gruber's analysis of the senate version of the health care bill, that was picked up by atlantic's ron brownstein in a piece caled a milestone in the health care journey, gruber is quoted this way, quote, gruber is a leading health economist at the massachusetts institute of technology who is consulted by politicians in both parties, nothing about his hhs contract or any other consulting with the administration or congress on the bill. in a piece, gruber is quoted stating, quote, they really make the best effort anyone has ever made, everything is in here, i can't think of anything i would do that they are not doing in the bill. you couldn't have done better than than they are doing. one of some 71 e-mails the party
sent out touting groouber's work. mike allen of politico had this in his playbook the next day saying obama makes brownstein's post required reading for the west wing. anybody involved or covering health care should see the piece. he was then cited by the white house blog and soon gruber was being celebrated on the senate floor. >> jonathan gruber is one of the most respected economists in the world said in today's "washington post," here's a quote -- here's a bill that reduces the deficit, covers 30 million people, 30 million more people and has a promise of lowering premiums. >> that op-ed gruber wrote in the "washington post" laid out his analysis of the cost of the bill, and here's how he was identified at the end, quote,
the writer ask a professor of economics at the massachusetts institute of technology. and so it went, for months, hampshire wrote for gruber's score sheet for the bill added up to the budget office's official scoring. adding, quote, now that it is known that john than gruber was a white house consultant--for decades to come should be made publicly available. >> the reason that i think this conversation ends up being a little frustrating is because the focus entirely is on washington procession and, yes, i have said it, that is an ugly process. >> this is the u.s. economy. >> and bret, let me tell you something, the fact of the matter is that for the vast majority of the people, their health care is not going to change. >> you guarantee that they're not going to -- they're going to
be able to keep their doctors. >> let me finish my answers. >> i know you don't like the fill busser. >> the notion that this is not trance parent, that nobody knows what's in the bill. everybody know what is's bill. i sat for seven hours. i just told you what was -- >> is connecticut in? >> connecticut? what are you specifically referring to? >> $100 million for the hospital. is montana in for the asbestos program? this is people, this is real money, people are worried about this stuff. >> as i said before, in the final provisions are going to be posted for many days before the thing passes. >> that was three days before the house voted on the health care bill that eventually became law, that was march 17, 2010. okay, charles, that was worth waiting for. >> all the glitches you talk about, that's not gremlins,
that's the vast left wing conspiracy rearing its ugly head as a distraction. i'm entirely with ron here, i think the president was not told about what's going on. and the reason is they have had six years experiencing of the press essentially conspiring with them and the amazing show of events that you had in that piece in which the administration issues statements, it uses gruber reports, it's echoed by their mignons in the press that's repeated by democrats as if this is objective evidence, it's simply one example of it. the other one is, i think they calculated the president could go a week without talking about it and then pretend he never heard of it because you wouldn't hear about it in the press and in fact except for fox, you look at all the networks and you showed that last week, it's been a blackout. i remember reading, i think it was on saturday, it was probably
the first time in the "new york times" on page 12 in a box way down at the bottom and the whole empet tus of the story is, republicans upset or criticizing about. this is a scandal of the first order and they imagine they would actually get away with it. and when you see everybody pretending that they had never heard of this guy when you show the evidence, he had meetings in the house 17 times, so when they where the movie, called the man who never was. i think this is an extension of the secret service scandal. gruber got into the white house, he went through a side door and sat in the oval office and joined 1 meetings and that's exactly what happened. >> and not only all the stuff that we laid out there, but in 2012, the obama campaign pointed to gruber as an architect of obama care and romney care. they saw gruber as an asset against mitt romney on the issue of health care and they put that
bio, if you will, and articles about him on the obama campaign response to the debate in 2012, the first debate. >> what is that line from theroux, circumstantial evidence is very compelling, like the trout in the milk. what's infuriating about this, or one of the things, the whole, why are you believing your lying eyes approach to. it's like a jedi mind trick they think is working, they can somehow deny knowing this guy. we have been following the health care debate for years, jonathan gruber, is president is right, he's not some staffer, because staffers rank lower than jonathan gruber in the health carolout. he was a consultant to help script the bill for the senate, he was the guy that was supposedly the architect of mitt romney's health care plan that obama became even as of last -- a couple of weeks ago after the
midterms was citing and tweaking, look, i'm just doing what mitt romney did. the entire foundation of lies to this thing is outstanding. when he says there was an honest debate, it's not an honest debate if one side is always lying. you can't debate something if one side is constantly obscuring the facts. >> there is something to the white house that says forget about what we said before, we're moving forward on this, they have done it numerous times on numerous issues, like we don't have videotape. >> again and again and again they stay, they really believe if we say something, that will make it true and they do think that we're stupid and we're not going to check the videotape and they were in bed with the left wing media in helping concoct this. but it's similar to what happened in iraq where you had the right wing media in bed with the white house and push an agenda that knew where it wanted to come.
not excusing what happened with the white house. but we live in an era where the trust in the presidency is at an all-time low, the trust in the congress and the supreme court is at an all-time low and the trust in the media is below all that, and we have earned it. >> a look at where things stand, this weekend's signup, plus to the political fallout of this, the gruber situation. it says here that a won's sex drive increases at the age of 80. helps reduce the risk of heart disse.
when you ask the american people about the importance of no longer being held off healthcare because of preexisting conditions or the fact that their children up to the age 26 can be on their plans, that's 3 million. when you ask them about the substance of the issue, the american people respond positively. >> well the secretary of hhs
on meet the press this weekend. this comes as a new gallup poll is showing what exactly the rating is for obamacare and how the public looks at it. it's at it lowest approval rating yetñi at 37% in gallup. 56 disapprove. we're back with the panel. okay. ron, overall, in the wake of this gruber situation, where does this go? >> you know, i don't know, on one level, can you look and say, the percentage of u.s. adults with insurance has increased. the percentage without has decreased. this second cycle of enrollment is now underway and seemingly without a glitch. there is a secretary now in charge of hhs who i have found over the years to actually be a competent manager, something we don't have a lot of in the obama administration. the problem is the central attribute you have to have as any leader, in any walk of life and certainly in government is trust. and this president has destroyed the credibility of
his administration himself and government itself. so, i think in the long run, as somebody who would like to see this bill work, i think they have really undermined it. and it's going to be harder to defend it. >> yeah. i think one -- i mean, i haven't looked closely at the poll, but i would be interested to know if this all-time low for obamacare is related to this new enrollment period as people are actually forced to confront what they have to do with obamacare and not lying it. >> probably not. probably go down when gruber kicks in. >> i think so. i think one of the things that's going on is that they made all of these promises that obamacare was going to do all of these wonderful things. a lot of these wonderful things haven't happened. the cost cutting the premiums being lower and all of that. at the same time, obama completely owns the dysfunctional american healthcare system. any bad experience you have with healthcare you can now attribute to obamacare. the really big picture on,
this i think somebody needs to do a lot better reporting on the fact that gruber is hardly a single incident. the whole probably in warming industry is full of grubers. there is so much of american government full of grubers. allegedly objective consultants rent seeking. sucking on the side of the la vint. >> let's look back to 2005. remember radio talk show host armstrong williams who was the "u.s.a. today" came out with a report that he was paid more than $200,000 to pitch no child left behind. it was front page news. it was, i remember, it was covered nonstop. here is a guy who arguably is the linchpin for obamacare, paid by hhs, and, yet, is cited as an independent objective analyst by all kinds of news organizations and capital hill. it does not get covered. >> now admitting that he lied to get this thing passed. >> do you remember the
controversy and it was a legitimate controversy over at the generals who were on the dole to be promoting the war and the media made a big deal out of that. realized generals doing exactly what friewber was doing. >> charles? >> the media. >> former justice, i'm sorry. >> the media investment in this is so total having not covered it when it was happening, citing him when he wasn't an expert. now, of course, not covering it is sort of amazing. i think ron is right about the trust issue. it starts with obama. if obama had not said if you like your plan, you keep it, but actually more broadly, you asked him in that would you have. he said look for the vast majority of americans it's not going to effect them that was the promise of obama ircan a. we're going to be nice and help the uninsured and the poor and that's fine. can you accept that. and he said but if you are not one of those who need help, you're going to be
okay. you are not involved in this. you are going to be left alone. now gruber told us that they knew from the beginning that was a lie. and they covered it up and they fudged the numbers and they got cbo to do xyz. but obama is the one who repeated it. the promise of obamacare is if you are not in need you will be okay. then it turns out lose your plan, get higher premiums, deductibles. you are not going to your own doctor. you will have to drive two hours to get a hospital. that, i think, what undermines it entirely. i think in this year you are hopefully going to have a chance to destroy obamacare one stroke at a time. >> yes or no, does the gruber situation affect politics around obamacare going forward? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> yes. >> that's it for the panel. stay tuned for a lively weekend update. here i can just..
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finally tonight, last week was a pretty busy week for news. in case you missed it, the fake news guys of "saturday night live" had a recap of some of the top headlines. >> former presidents george w. bush and clinton teased each other how on twitter yet and bush asking while not on instagram while jimmy carter spent his week plowing through tinder. >> this week president obama traveled to asia to meet with leader from china, russia, and japan to deal with some pretty tough questions, like who wore it best? [ laughter ] >> okay. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. interesting show tonight. that's it for "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. we eventually got there, but you want to stay right here because greta goes "on the record" with president bush 43 touring his childhood home, talking about vladimir putin, isis, his brother jeb
possibly running and, of course, his dad: president bush goes "on the record" with greta and she start right now. greta van susteren is in texas and tonight she will take you "on the record" with former president george w. bush from the home where he grew up. but, first tonight, president obama dismissing obamacare architect jonathan gruber as, quote: some advisor. but that was yesterday. way back in 2006, then senator obama certainly seemed to know and actually admire jonathan gruber, even saying that he stole some of his ideas from him. listen to what the president said at the brookings institution. >> you have already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles. many of them i have stolen ideas from liberally. people ranging from robert gordon to austan goolsbee, john